| Are you a Hypomaniac? If you are you have some | | | | have to think a lot, to get them out of a jam they |
| definite advantages over others. Hypomaniacs are | | | | got into by hitting the wrong turn in the maze or |
| often superstars in their fields, but they are often | | | | running through the wrong door of opportunity. But |
| misunderstood by those who work so hard to profile | | | | then again that is only a short time frame, then you |
| personalities and put individuals into neat little | | | | usually just find a way to use all the mistakes as |
| boxes.Regarding this article which seems to be the | | | | advantages. This article now makes me remember, |
| present day thought on the Hypomaniac Syndrome: | | | | of a guy who crashed into his new house in his new |
| 'Hypomanic' executives often most successful | | | | Beechcraft Baron? He may have had a moment such |
| Associated Press 04/26/2002 Washington-I too have | | | | as this depression thing, but killing one's self is giving |
| been studying this group of people as I observe the | | | | up and a person with unlimited energy and a brain to |
| superstars and read the biographies of the most | | | | match would never give up. Now if you need a down |
| driven individuals. Here are my thoughts on the | | | | side maybe it would be the "burn out affect" or |
| subject. Perhaps you can assist and shed some light | | | | something else, although that does not seem to |
| on this subject.First off the Very good article. But | | | | work either, judging by history and the referenced |
| how does an individual know if he has this | | | | biographies above. Of course if one does not eat |
| "Hypomanic" Thing? I submit the hypomaniac person | | | | right or take care of themselves this type of person |
| maybe much more complicated than was introduced | | | | will write checks that it's body cannot cash, causing |
| in this article.And having those traits myself (many | | | | health issues, I suppose.In this article are the PhDs or |
| times those who chose the subject of psychology | | | | author really specialists in Bi Polar disorders? I once |
| actually have questions about themselves which | | | | had a gentleman who worked for me who was |
| causes them to go into such subject matter as a | | | | Bi-Polar, he had his life really screwed up, nice guy |
| profession). I have read 100s of biographies of the | | | | and needed help. I had to cut him lose due to |
| greatest leaders, sports figures, inventors, | | | | performance issues, we needed more output. Some |
| entreprenuers, warriors, scientists, etc. Yet I have a | | | | days he was terrific and other not at all. I was |
| hard time placing many of these people into those | | | | wondering what type of job a person like this might |
| categories. So it seems hard to find a correlation to | | | | be best suited for. He was not good at a sales, |
| these comments in the article and also difficult to see | | | | although everyone seemed to like him. My theory |
| the downside of such a person for society, it is a | | | | was that his displacement caused feelings of |
| plus and allows many of us to live without worry | | | | superiority in others around him and make him appear |
| because those hard chargers are protecting the | | | | to have Charisma and be approachable and |
| heard so to speak.Most hypomaniacs would not see | | | | non-intimidating. He was on Litium. What does lithium |
| the drawbacks. I too do not see them as negative; I | | | | do to people, well it seems wrong to give to people, |
| do see them as an advantage. This is very | | | | does it have after side affects?After all Bi-polar is |
| interesting indeed. I first must question and wonder | | | | interesting since the Cerebellum if unfolded is 1128 cu |
| about the "risk taking" thing a little, in that I do not | | | | centimeters the size of a record album cover which |
| believe these people see it as a risk, I know I do not. | | | | is bigger than either of the left or right side of the |
| Challenge yes, risk, not really. Innovation is a | | | | brain. Even together the cerebral cortex including |
| necessity of any of these people, and that maybe | | | | both halves is 1900 cubic centimeters. So those who |
| perceived as out on a limb or a risk. As far a the | | | | use it well are able to do more faster. We know |
| grandiosity issue I think that too maybe debatable, | | | | from those who have brain injuries that their brain |
| because nothing is impossible, anything can be | | | | uses the cerebellum as RAM memory and lights up |
| achieved it is more a matter of mind and | | | | on the computer screens with activity when the |
| perseverance which I guess a PhD in the psychology | | | | damaged part of either the left or right side cannot |
| field would not be able to readily recognize. Any | | | | be used. There are more cells and neurons in the |
| person like this Hypomanic, constantly has others tell | | | | cerebellum than the rest of the brain, much more |
| them they cannot do something, yet they do it for | | | | capacity. So when some is using it they can do more |
| spite. Is it really grandiosity of the Hypomaniac or is it | | | | faster and process more data and crutch more |
| misjudgment of the observer? I think it maybe the | | | | numbers so to speak. You may wish to check up on |
| psychologist are thinking they are so special that | | | | Nueroantomist Santiago Ramon y Cajal.Sharks have |
| they cannot conceive of these people and their | | | | also huge cerebellums and they have 400 million |
| reach. For instance many Entrepreneurs and I use this | | | | years of evolution on the modern man no matter |
| context because the article does (I suppose | | | | what you believe as far as 160,000 years, 40,000 |
| scientists have other traits if they were | | | | years since Neanderthal or 10,000 years of Chinese |
| hypomaniacs) do poorly after their first big win, in | | | | recorded written history. The problem I see with the |
| their next big thing or endeavor.Entrepreneurs rarely | | | | article is that everyone is a Doctor of something and |
| have multiple wins in different industries, except | | | | they are the same people giving kids under age 6 |
| people like Branson, Gates, Fred Smith (Fed EX), | | | | Prozac and screwing up their brains before full |
| Wayne Hiezinga. The reason for these is they carried | | | | development. Perhaps the Hypomaniac is a positive |
| their same work ethic into the next battle, and they | | | | label although to try to narrowly title a behavior is |
| are not done yet, they want more. I see one of the | | | | unhealthy and can cause risks of mislabeling. People |
| traits at Harvard use to be hard work ethic, yet do | | | | who appear to be different for whatever reason all |
| not see it in these people anymore. Enron debacle | | | | share another familiar advantage in sports, war, |
| was stupid, they had the world by the balls, but | | | | business, game or politics. Their opponents and |
| leadership slacked off, right when they should have | | | | followers, who do not understand them, once they |
| been really turning on the juice. They needed a | | | | realize that they do not understand, often fear them. |
| visionary, no prisoners leader, like the previously | | | | From a Machiavellian standpoint one could say this is |
| mentioned, too bad, because it hurt America. The | | | | good if you are in a leadership capacity and especially |
| reasoning being that commoditizing additional things | | | | good in the unforgiving battle in politics. It's best if |
| that are omnipotent for our society is of value. I | | | | your opponents think you are crazy and |
| think also if the idea that Gates also has savant | | | | unpredictable, because that incites fear and |
| tendencies and you add Bi-Polar to it, then you have | | | | hesitation, the edge needed in surprise attack or |
| to go back to the drawing board and cannot relate | | | | reciprocal response. If your followers do not |
| his success or hard work ethic with that of the | | | | understand your methods but understand your |
| others.Anyone out there is doing research on this | | | | strength in intelligence they will follow you and not |
| Hypomanic personality trait should post their | | | | try to topple you out of fear and admiration. This |
| comments after this discussion. When studying great | | | | too would be considered a positive attribute if this |
| people such as, Gates "The Road Ahead" (And the | | | | article Bi-Polar theory holds true from the |
| Inner Circle Magazine), Turner "It Ain't As Easy as It | | | | Hypomaniac executive model.Remember Patton use |
| Looks", Ellison "The Difference Between god and", | | | | to say that if stood on his jeep to make a speech |
| Richard Branson book "Virginity," and Guzietta from | | | | he had everyone's ear, his troops knew he knew |
| Coke A Cola "I Want the World to Buy a Coke". All | | | | how to win, the media made him sound crazy beating |
| seem to have many of these traits. I think the anger | | | | up on hospital wounded or panic attacked soldiers |
| in stupidity, bureaucracy, and slow moving brain dead | | | | and no one could figure him out and therefore to his |
| people, causes them to work harder, all seem to | | | | advantage, he was able to fly by the seat of his |
| mention this in their autobiographical works. Perhaps | | | | pants into victorious battle. Hitler talked in |
| they are trading the maniac mild depression into | | | | mesmerizing cadence and put people in a beta state |
| anger and steam and using it to heat up the soft | | | | of mind. While also having the ups and downs of |
| tissue in the back of the head to drive their | | | | Bi-Polar tendencies. Vince Lombardi said to be one of |
| stick-to-it-ness back to the home front battle. I | | | | the greatest sports leaders in history also had mood |
| sometimes think that the anger of the brick walls in | | | | swings to the low, they say. Steve Jobs is a good |
| the way force these individuals to go crazy forcing | | | | example of bi-polarality in this article context from |
| them into thier work. How can anyone be depressed | | | | what I have read. Perhaps a bi-polar type tendency |
| if they are doing what they love to do? They love | | | | and a trend towards hard charging never give up |
| to win.A hypomaniac which does not like what they | | | | individuals and hypomaniac label may actually be a |
| are doing might be different. Tesla the famous AC | | | | strength of character to be addressed and watched |
| inventor had many of these traits and yet loved his | | | | for positive advantages and to keep from turning |
| work. There maybe cases to prove this point wrong. | | | | evil?The premise that there is only room for one |
| Maybe these off the chart Hypomaniacs have other | | | | visionary at a time is false. Visionaries always seek |
| sides to them, but this mild maniac depression seems | | | | out like-minded visionaries to vision with. If one is the |
| a little unlikely. If people have witnessed these traits | | | | absolute boss, then there is a problem but it is not |
| in these people, I would say they mistook the | | | | like household pets where the first pet is the boss. |
| depletion of vitamins due to the self inficted stress | | | | Visionaries often work well together and two minds |
| of the their own inner personal battle with the | | | | are better than one providing the fundamental issues |
| "human factor" resistence put in their way to get to | | | | are equal (Belief System Theory-Equally yoked |
| where they are going to be. It is possible to go | | | | principle). Now then people like Mr. Lear, Edison, Tesla, |
| without eating and sleeping and then all of a sudden it | | | | Copernicus, Leonardo de Vinci, etc. may actually be |
| hits you. Maybe these people if witneesed in a | | | | loners and work better that way, although they all |
| depression like state, just need some more | | | | had companions and understood they needed help to |
| Chormium Picolinate or protien for their brains. This | | | | get out their message and inventions and bring things |
| particular article may have missed a couple other | | | | to market.There can be other experiments to |
| benefits, although obviously cannot be a whole book | | | | determine if these hypomaniacs really exist to the |
| because it is just an article;1. When people cannot put | | | | degree mentioned in the article. By using naturalistic |
| you in their frame of reference they mis judge your | | | | observations and a limited control group of other |
| motivations and needs in negotiations and therefore | | | | over achievers and we will have created a random |
| give you the upper hand;2. Also a person moving | | | | assignment. I question the validity of subjects like |
| that fast cannot have too many friends due to time. | | | | Gates and Jobs as proof that the Bi-Polar theory |
| Therefore does not get too caught up in "Familiarity | | | | holds true to the Hypomaniac hypothesis. The |
| Breeds Contempt" traps;2.5 Competition cannot keep | | | | correlation in such limited data set along with the PR |
| up, because if they copy them, they are already | | | | bull that their companies and books promote make it |
| several more steps ahead and back around to flank | | | | difficult to know the truth of any of this. I mean, the |
| them. They never know what hit them and then it is | | | | theory still may have some validity, and it cannot be |
| too late;3. Misdirection and miss information | | | | proven either way unless we can have them at our |
| techniques are easier to emloy because no body can | | | | disposal for a week or two which is impossible based |
| figure out where you are going or coming from;4. | | | | on the justice departments needs of gate's time |
| When they are moving that fast and have faith in | | | | when he should be working on R and D projects and |
| future moves they do not need to worry, they will | | | | Jobs incredible schedule and interview rounds with his |
| find a way. This looks dangerous to others, and it | | | | latest new product rollout. And if these subjects |
| gives them an advantage because no one will dare | | | | were taken away from their artificial lives compared |
| follow;5. A moving target is harder to hit and almost | | | | with that of normal folks we could lose the whole |
| impossible to follow;6. Their very existence | | | | project. For instance if we took all these people and |
| intimidates people, which can also help you. People | | | | put them on a track with go carts and watched their |
| are afraid of you;7. Their energy radiates out word | | | | behavior we might see some interesting things similar |
| and causes things to line up your way by your sheer | | | | to all, but we may also find none to that of the HS |
| will.Now on the drawbacks side of things the articles | | | | Athlete, full of piss and vinegar wanting to conquer |
| fails to mention the following; Draw Backs:1. They | | | | their world. Does this make sense? If the article and |
| burn people out;2. Others that emulate them often | | | | theories hold true and we cannot have off the chart |
| fail, it requires too much knowledge and skill to work | | | | in one direction without off the chart in another, |
| at this level;3. People question their judgment | | | | which I believe too, then the Bi-Polarity between |
| because they do not realize the multiple affect. ie... | | | | Major Depression and Mania maybe a good answer |
| Ted Turner over paying in a merger so he had the | | | | for things. And if this is so then we should not |
| movie classic content for his future project;4. They | | | | condemn those who are too far off the end on one |
| have problems relating with people who cannot | | | | side, because they have so much to offer the world |
| reason or do complex thoughts;5. They do not do | | | | on the other. Interesting.This subject matter is |
| good at parties which are wasting your time. | | | | fascinating as we try to understand the human spirit |
| Although you can be the life of the party quite | | | | and will of top performing individuals, what on Earth |
| easily;6. They are still stuck in linear time and | | | | makes them tick? The examples presented are |
| therefore cannot do everything you want to;7. They | | | | interesting indeed and we need to take a real look |
| have to be careful not to run right over someone or | | | | into the theory, which seems to be too simply |
| through them, it is very easy to do;8. They have no | | | | defined in the article and there has to be more to |
| peers, this may actually be a benefit up for | | | | this. Although the article hits home for me, thus I find |
| discussion.Regarding the downer side of this | | | | this subject matter of value, it appears we might all |
| hypomaniac title or labeling, I cannot see the mellow | | | | learn from such hard charging super stars like Gates |
| downer side of it. I do not see that maniac | | | | and Jobs. I think I still have to question trying to |
| depression state? Perhaps that was put in there to | | | | pigeon hole any individual as people are complex and |
| capture the "Bi-Polar" thing to loop the story in a full | | | | are an accumulation of all their observations, |
| circle, readers believe in all that Bi-Polar, lithium and | | | | experiences, genetics and achievements are unique |
| Prozac ( a good book on this subject is "Living With | | | | and therefore such simple classifications may be |
| Prozac" (scary book if you think of what this can do | | | | highly invalid, why don't we simply ask them? If any |
| to our soicety) stuff. After all readers will not buy | | | | one has any data on Hypomaniac Syndromes, please |
| the superman idea without the kryptonite? Is the | | | | post them below so that other Think Tank members |
| author sure that, that was not put in just to appease | | | | can review this as many over achiever tend to also |
| readers and make them not feel so little against | | | | join think tanks to make a difference. |
| these people?There may be brief times where you | | | | |